O.C.T. - 02/16/08 - Hardware River Trip

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:43 am

This is a little early to post this but I have already gotten an inquire about the trip. At present the water levels have been low with a cut off of 70CFS on the USGS gauge. If the level has fallen below 70 CFS and no rain forecast then I will cancel the trip by Wednesday 02/13/08. The trip details follow:

Richard

We meet at the Town of Hardware takeout at 10:00am. Pack gear up and shuttle to the Rt 6 Hardware River putin. This means no more than 5 hours on the river and off by 4:00pm. Please e-mail or call Thursday Evening by 9:00pm.

Description
From Rt. 6 to the James River, the Hardware River moves along much faster than the upper section. It is still a small stream, 40’ to 50’ wide at the widest parts. It is fairly flat in most parts, but the current is fairly good; there will be a couple of trees across the stream. It has at least three Class 2 rapids before joining the James River. The three rapids are as follows: gravel bar with a discernible drop, 2’ drop on a left turn, 2’ ledge with a number of chutes, all Class 2 or less.

The rating for this trip is Novice but the trip is in Feb so treat it as an N/I because of cold water.

Thank you

Hardware River – Minimum Level 70cfs
http://www.americanwhitewater.org/river ... 3bc66cc198

Weather
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/US ... earch_city

Topo of Hardware at James River
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=37. ... ize=l&s=50

Topo of Rt 6 Putin
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4185 ... ayer=DRG25

From East on Rt. 6 to Hardware takeout
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?ed=xTow ... country=us

From Richmond to Hardware
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?wip= ... ture=en-US

From Charlottesville to Hardware takeout
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?ed=xTow ... country=us

Some tid bits of information on the Hardware River:
http://www.riverfacts.com/rivers/13468.html
http://www.stateparks.com/hardware_river__are.html
http://www.trails.com/tcatalog_trail.as ... HGD164-024
http://www.dgif.state.va.us/vbwt/site.a ... site=PJR07
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wmas/maps/ ... eriver.pdf

slo2rol · Post by **slo2rol** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:00 pm

If it's running above minimum and my wife will let me go, I'm in.

Looks like showers are forecast for 2/13 - may want to see what these bring before cancelling?

The question is.... Ask for permission or go and then beg for forgiveness

-Brandon

Wallace · Post by **Wallace** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:12 pm

"It's better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission" US Navy unofficial motto.

Paddle Daddy · Post by **Paddle Daddy** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:52 pm

Lucie and I are in if the trip is on.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:56 pm

I should be able to go, water permitting of course.

s2welee · Post by **s2welee** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:06 pm

I'm in too, assuming water is available. I checked the gauge earlier today and saw 49cfs...I hope the rain comes.

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:58 am

s2welee wrote:I'm in too, assuming water is available. I checked the gauge earlier today and saw 49cfs...I hope the rain comes.

Me too! I would say that tomorrow (Wednesday) evening or early Thursday morning we should know if there will be enough water in the river for the trip.

Richard

slo2rol · Post by **slo2rol** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:05 am

It's looking much more promising - 73 cfs and RISING!!!!

Rain showers are forecast to continue through 9pm this evening before shifting to snow showers into early Thursday morning!!!

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:30 pm

YeOldeAndDecrepite wrote:This is a little early to post this but I have already gotten an inquire about the trip. At present the water levels have been low with a cut off of 70CFS on the USGS gauge. If the level has fallen below 70 CFS and no rain forecast then I will cancel the trip by Wednesday 02/13/08. The trip details follow:

Richard

We meet at the Town of Hardware takeout at 10:00am. Pack gear up and shuttle to the Rt 6 Hardware River putin. This means no more than 5 hours on the river and off by 4:00pm. Please e-mail or call Thursday Evening by 9:00pm.

Description
From Rt. 6 to the James River, the Hardware River moves along much faster than the upper section. It is still a small stream, 40’ to 50’ wide at the widest parts. It is fairly flat in most parts, but the current is fairly good; there will be a couple of trees across the stream. It has at least three Class 2 rapids before joining the James River. The three rapids are as follows: gravel bar with a discernible drop, 2’ drop on a left turn, 2’ ledge with a number of chutes, all Class 2 or less.

The rating for this trip is Novice but the trip is in Feb so treat it as an N/I because of cold water.

Thank you

Looking good for the Hardware River Trip! Time to make plans. We meet at the confluence of the Hardware and James Rivers. This is at a boat landing. We need to load people, boats, and gear into as few vehicles as possible as there is little parking at the putin. The water is cold so dress accordantly. The trip is 12 miles so bring food and drink for a nice paddle. The only possible problem may be trees down in the river.

Richard

s2welee · Post by **s2welee** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:55 pm

YOAD,

What type of boat are you brining? I was thinking of my stable and comfortable canoe or my rec-kayak, but I wanted some recommendations.

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:15 pm

s2welee wrote:YOAD,

What type of boat are you brining? I was thinking of my stable and comfortable canoe or my rec-kayak, but I wanted some recommendations.

I am bringing my most comfortable canoe I have. rec-kayaks are a little slow. Touring kayaks are faster and usually more comfortable.

Richard

slo2rol · Post by **slo2rol** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:47 pm

YeOldeAndDecrepite wrote:
s2welee wrote:YOAD,

What type of boat are you brining? I was thinking of my stable and comfortable canoe or my rec-kayak, but I wanted some recommendations.
I am bringing my most comfortable canoe I have. rec-kayaks are a little slow. Touring kayaks are faster and usually more comfortable.

Richard

I've only got two options - both kayaks... Old rec. boat or new creek boat! Of course I want to break in the new boat, but it sounds like I should opt for the rec boat to keep up with yeolde canoes! Thoughts, comments, concerns???

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:13 am

slo2rol wrote:
YeOldeAndDecrepite wrote:
s2welee wrote:YOAD,

What type of boat are you brining? I was thinking of my stable and comfortable canoe or my rec-kayak, but I wanted some recommendations.
I am bringing my most comfortable canoe I have. rec-kayaks are a little slow. Touring kayaks are faster and usually more comfortable.

Richard
I've only got two options - both kayaks... Old rec. boat or new creek boat! Of course I want to break in the new boat, but it sounds like I should opt for the rec boat to keep up with yeolde canoes! Thoughts, comments, concerns???

New boat, one heck of a work out! Old boat, laid back having tea and crackers. Your choice.

Richard

ol' Dawg · Post by **ol' Dawg** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:20 pm

Looking forward to it. Count me in.

YeOldeAndDecrepite · Post by **YeOldeAndDecrepite** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:43 pm

ol' Dawg wrote:Looking forward to it. Count me in.

See you Saturday.

Richard

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